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Grateful Dead Live at Seminole Indian Village on 1969-05-23

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Grateful Dead Live at Seminole Indian Village on 1969-05-23


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This show has been commercially released as "Road Trips: Vol 4, Number 1"

Dancin' In The Streets, Casey Jones, Hard To Handle, Morning Dew, Me & My Uncle, Dark Star-> Saint Stephen-> The Eleven


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Seminole Indian Village
Location Hollywood, FL

Source Soundboard
Lineage 2 Sources: SBD > MR > PCM > D > CD > EAC > SHN; SBD > MC > R > C > D > CD > EAC > SHN
Transferred by Jim Hale, Seth Kaplan & JCotsman

Notes

Complete show from compilation of reel master and what is believed to be the cassette master.

Source 1:
SBD>MR>PCM>D>CD>EAC>SHN
Source 2:
SBD>MC>R>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN (?)

source 2 provides:
--all of Hard To Handle
--from 2:53 in The Eleven to the end of the show

--Source 2 originated from a Serafin edit and originally was listed as a reel master, though there is reason to believe it was mastered on cassette, as noted on Eaton's list. There are remnants of digital processing in the recording, including distortion from what is likely to be digital moise reduction. Sound Forge was used to correct the pitch and patch in the portions from the higher quality reel source.

--this exact shn set may have seen limited circulation in early 2002 with the 2nd source listed as unknown.

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Reviews

Reviewer: njpg - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 20, 2015
Subject: -
More recent versions of this are incomplete & don't sound significantly better. Awesome show!
Reviewer: doug_the_dude - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 23, 2013
Subject: RT 4/1
Dancin'? Casey? These aren't listed on the .txt file - were they played at the show? None of these boards have these, nor does the Road Trips release. Curious, though...

I wouldn't bother with these sliced-up boards; RT4/1 is worth investing in for the clearest sound possible, given that it is rough-and-tumble '69...the fab four (DS>SS>11>LL) is as good as its ever been, particularly Lovelight! Jerry is simply out of control; here and on Dark Star there are moments when T.C. joins Jerry up there in the stratosphere and, *man* is that ever cool!
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 14, 2010
Subject: right on chris
the Dark Star here is a standout in a year of standouts. really, in '69 there are far more great dark stars than mediocre ones. this is right up there on the long list of my favs including 2/22, 2/27, 4/22, 4/27, 6/7, 6/14, and 11/2. can't add much to what chris said about it here, but other personal highlights of the show include the HTH, lovelight and MAMU. there's a few rough spots where garcia seems to be having some trouble w/ his guitar during the eleven and tunes up at the beginning of lovelight, but overall this one's a keeper. along w/ the next night, which, imho, is even better...
Reviewer: Chris U. - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 9, 2008
Subject: Dark Star
I'm not sure if it was unusually hot or what the problem was but the band spends quite a bit of time tuning up on this tape -- during the songs (as was their fashion back in the days when they didn't stop playing for an hour).

That said ... this particular Dark Star is phenomenal. Next to 2-13-70, I think it probably has the largest number of memorable unique moments of any pre-Keith Dark Star. Unlike 2-13-70, almost all of what is happening here appears to be driven by Garcia who is plainly experiencing some sort of 20 minute creative orgasm.

The other notable feature -- and what especially appeals to me -- is the variety of percussion sounds that are heard as the performance progresses. Awesome. As in other Dark Stars from this era, the microphones used to capture the castanets, maracas, or whatever small acoustic percussion instruments are used tend to pick up the sound of the guitars which leads, in turn, to a wonderful haze of quintessentially Dead-like feedback and overtones hanging over the entire affair.

The whole show is excellent (the Eleven ain't anything to write home about) but the Dark Star is extraordinary.
Reviewer: sydthecat2 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 1, 2007
Subject: POW!
I kinda prefer the other show from this run but you gotta dig this one too! Stellar Dark Star! Fun Morning Dew! Nice Hard to Handle! So much danceability to be had!
Reviewer: Cliff Hucker - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 24, 2006
Subject: Wouldn't you know?
The Dead would play such a kickin' show at an Indian reservation! Complete with tremendous Dark Star!

Must have been a cool setting? Anybody know about this show?
Reviewer: Triadtropz - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 12, 2006
Subject: lucky indians
this show grooves...out in the middle of nowhere in s. fla must have been great times..ive listened to almost every dark star and they dont get any better than this!
Reviewer: Darrylizer - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 5, 2006
Subject: What a difference a month makes
Well well, the previous show I heard from 1969 was 4/21/69 at the Ark in Boston. It was good but flawed. What a difference a month makes. It doesn't even sound like the same band they are SO much better for this show. Yes it's a short show, is this the whole thing?, but the vulnerability that Bob exhibits on Me And My Uncle parred with the guitar virtuosity of Jerry on Dark Star, more than makes up for the show's brevity. Damn this is some beautiful stuff, I kid you not. The run at the Fillmore West from 2/27 to 3/2 and this show are the best I've heard from 1969.
Reviewer: familiarfan - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 26, 2006
Subject: Morning Dew
I had a CD of this show mixed with a Sept.68 show called Bear Trap. And let me tell you that this is my favorite Morning Dew.
Alot of feeling. My kid may or may not have heard this version before he was born as his mother put the headphones around her belly while it played at very high volume.
Reviewer: capn doubledose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 9, 2005
Subject: Definately better than live dead....
Never thought I would ever say that but this is one ass-kicking mother of a show Dark Star & The Eleven get my vote for 2 of the best of all time. Pigs epic Lovelight is not even listed.

Sound -1
Reviewer: macfawlty - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 21, 2005
Subject: Great sound and a great short show
The sound is really good although there is some tape flutter and variance in tonal quality. Morning Dew is really good, DS/SS/Eleven is a standout for the year. Lovelight is one of the best I have heard. Although with so many versions in most shows of this period, sometimes I grow just a little weary.
Reviewer: joshuatree - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 9, 2005
Subject: A+
This show is top shelf. Jerry is on fire in every song.

Get it now! DO IT.
Reviewer: Jim F - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 23, 2005
Subject: Top 5 Dark Stars of 1969.
This is one of them. This Dark Star is maybe my second favorite, after 2/27/69 (Live Dead). But the Eleven from the 24th is better. The entire unique jam from the 24 surrounding the eleven is great. But get this one for the Dark Star. I've loved this show for years, but after listening to it last night, I just had to write a review highlighting this beautiful Dark Star. 4 stars for the excellent quality and good performance, except for that source change in the eleven.
Reviewer: friscobob - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 22, 2005
Subject: Seminole Village
This is a spectacular sounding copy of this show, certainly a sonic upgrade from the older tape, and I strongly recommend it. This is also one of the peak performances of this year, with an absolutely stellar Dark Star, and also the rest of the Stephen>Eleven>Lovelight medley is outstanding too, with an especially energetic Pigpen on Lovelight. The Morning Dew early in the set is also a very strong keeper rendition, one of the best 69 versions. In short, this is a must have, especially in this sound quality. Get it now.
Reviewer: dirty jev-o - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 13, 2004
Subject: good good good
what? another great sbd from 69? ok.....show sounds good....they were very serious in 69....execution, my friendly little dead heads!!!!top notch....all the dark stars were very diff. during this era..i love em all as long as the tape was good and runnin--5 this dark star--wait....i got this tape around 96 when these all started to circulate {the 69 stuff}.....these riffs are so memorable in 69 in dark star!!!! man....could they have been etched in stone? yes!!!
Reviewer: Sachin78 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 24, 2004
Subject: Lovelight
I don't know if this is the best version of DS>SS>11 I've heard (I just listened to 4/27/69, and it blows the socks of this one). But it IS very very good ;) What struck me about this set was the 30+ minute Lovelight -- super high energy, lots of hoots and hollars, etc. It'll getcha in the mood for sure.
Reviewer: jime4524 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 12, 2004
Subject: most excellent
Quite possibly one of the greatest versions of Dark Star>Saint Stephen>The Eleven I've heard. The recording on the soundboard is great, and the performance is even better.
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